Seaton Town Hall
SV have finally published some information on their Town Hall proposals, but only on their Facebook page:
Just to explain as there is an individual who seems to have missed everything we said at our meeting. We intend to become a ‘Charitable Incorporated Organisation (CIO)’ this is fully regulated by the ‘Charities Commission’ and we will have a Board of Trustees. Just like the Hospital League of Friends or say Red Cross we will have a trading arm which will be The Gateway (Community Interest Company). All profits, donations, patronage, legacies etc will be ‘gift aided’ over to the (CIO) and everything is fully Asset Locked….so we cannot runaway and sell it all. The Gateway Community Trust is merely the ‘name’ we have selected for the Charitable Incorporated Organisation. xxx Please share xx
This is clearly in response to my post (read by over 200 people in two days), but it gives much less information. Although they suggest I ‘seem to have missed everything’, they still haven’t found a mistake in my account.
Their post clarifies that the proposed trust would be a Charitable Incorporated Organisation. As described at their meeting, it would appear to be what the Charity Commission calls a ‘foundation’ CIO, ‘whose only voting members will be the charity trustees‘ – in this case the 7 people appointed by Seaton’s Voice.
This is where concerns arise. Unelected trustees would own and control Seaton’s (former) Town Hall. The Charity Commission explains: ‘In practice a CIO using the ‘foundation’ model will be like an incorporated charitable trust, run by a small group of people (the charity trustees) who make all key decisions. Charity trustees may be appointed for an unlimited time and they will probably appoint new charity trustees.’
In other words a self-perpetuating group, unaccountable to the people of Seaton.
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Seaton’s Voice held an impressively large but stage-managed rally last night at which they showed slides of their new proposals for the Town Hall. However no printed information was available and there is none on their website. This makes it difficult even for people who were there to evaluate in detail. They seemed to want to overwhelm people with emotion, not to have rational discussion. I have therefore put together this summary of their proposals and the issues they raise, in Q and A form. I trust I got it down right but please make corrections in the comments, or email me. – Martin Shaw (in a personal capacity)
WHAT ARE THE KEY POINTS?
SV are setting up The Gateway Community Trust and they want this body, not the Town Council to which EDDC has agreed to transfer the Town Hall, to own the building.
WHO WILL RUN THE TRUST?
SV’s three directors, Carol Manley, Elga Mackie and Annette Bentley, have invited the following to form a Board of Trustees: Alan Nicholas (Chair), Barbara Dearden Potter, Mary Bowles, Paul Hotchkiss, Rachel Webber, Kris Brock and Steve Alaric Lee.
WHAT ABOUT S.V.?
SV will become The Gateway Theatre Company, the trading arm of the Trust, with the three existing directors continuing to run it.
WHO WILL THE GATEWAY THEATRE CO. BE ACCOUNTABLE TO?
The Gateway Theatre Company, i.e. Carol, Elga and Annette, will be accountable to the Board which they have chosen.
WHAT WILL BE THE ROLES OF GATEWAY SUPPORTERS AND THE WIDER SEATON COMMUNITY?
Gateway supporters can volunteer, donate and leave legacies, but they will have no formal say in the running of the Trust. The rest of the Seaton community will have no role or say in how the Trust and the Gateway company run the building.
WHERE’S THE DEMOCRACY?
Carol said that the proposal represents ‘democracy in action’, but there is NO democracy whatsoever in the proposed Gateway Community Trust. Control remains tightly in the hands of Carol, Elga and Annette, with potential oversight only by people who owe their positions to these three.
HOW WILL THIS ALL BE FINANCED?
Mainly by 3 ‘angel investors’, Dave Brock, Steve Alaric Lee and Matthew Wright, who have pledged to provide cash reserves and bonds. Smaller donations (£13,000 has been pledged), legacy funding and gift-aided donations will help as well.
HOW DO THEY HOPE TO GET THE BUILDING?
They have explained their plans to EDDC’s Chief Executive, Mark Williams, who appears to have said that EDDC will not precipitately sell the Town Hall, but will talk to them about their proposal. Carol was ambiguous about this, but I think it means only that this would happen in the event that Seaton voters reject the current transfer to the Town Council. Williams would not have had authority to reverse the offer to the Town Council. This must be why he apparently said it could come back to EDDC’s Cabinet in February. That would give time for the referendum to take place and its implications to be absorbed.
WHAT ABOUT THE TOWN COUNCIL’S OFFICES?
Carol said that the Council would be welcome to stay under their ownership, but a supporter suggested that the Council should move to Marshlands. I think this is the real agenda.
… AND THE MUSEUM?
Carol said in passing that it would be welcome to stay and ‘heritage’ would be one of the goals of the Trust. Whether the Museum has been consulted, she didn’t say.
WILL THERE STILL BE A TOWN HALL?
Not really, if the Council is forced out. Carol said that she doesn’t like the name ‘Town Hall’. We must assume it will become simply The Gateway.
WILL THEY STILL REFURBISH THE BUILDING?
No. This is not part of the new plans, although it might be possible down the line. So this has been lost, compared to the Council’s Option 3 which SV supported until last month.
IS IT NECESSARY FOR S.V.’s TRUST TO OWN THE BUILDING, IN ORDER TO HAVE A ‘HOME FOR THE COMMUNITY’?
No. The building is a home for the community at the moment and will continue to be if the Council’s Option 2 or Option 3 is approved. A major point of both is to continue housing and indeed improve things for The Gateway. The difference the SV proposal makes is only to who OWNS the building. THIS is what the proposal is designed to achieve, i.e. SV’s Trust will have gained ‘the asset’.
WHAT ARE THE GOOD POINTS IN THIS PROPOSAL?
Clearly it’s a bit better for Carol, Elga and Annette to be accountable to someone, even handpicked supporters, than no one as at present. And it’s much better that The Gateway is actively fundraising both from ‘investors’ and ordinary supporters, especially since it can no longer rely on so much subsidy from EDDC or Seaton Town Council.
WHAT ARE THE DOWNSIDES?
- Seaton, the whole community, will not have its Town Hall.
- The Town Hall refurbishment will have been sacrificed.
- A building which belongs morally to ALL the people of Seaton – EDDC only own it because they took it over from the old Seaton Urban District Council – will have been handed over for free to an unelected, unaccountable trust, and in reality to the three people who run SV, who at best speak for a section of the community which places its trust in them.
- However honourable the members of the trust, they do not and cannot represent the people of Seaton as a whole. However good SV is at running community events, they should not own the Town Hall and turn in into something else.
CAN THE TRANSFER TO THE COUNCIL STILL HAPPEN?
Yes. EDDC has made an offer of transfer to the Town Council, which is balloting the voters on this. If the majority of voters support Options 2 and 3 then the Council will have a mandate to proceed with the transfer, and EDDC can hardly go back on its offer.
COULD A TRANSFER TO S.V.’s NEW TRUST HAPPEN?
If the majority supports Option 1, then we are in uncharted waters. Based on what Carol said, it appears that EDDC would talk to SV, and the earliest the matter might be formally considered would at Cabinet in February.
However it can hardly be assumed that they would hand over the building to the new, unproven trust. SV’s accounts, never independently audited, would need to be examined. The viability of the offers from the ‘angel investors’ and the extent of SV’s fundraising would have to be looked at. The governance arrangements, in the inadequate form they have been announced, would almost certainly be rejected.
If after careful scrutiny EDDC was not satisfied with SV, they could certainly sell the building (as SV previously said they would). However the Town Council would certainly continue to be consulted as to the way forward.
WHAT SHOULD VOTERS DO?
You have a choice. Do you want the Town Council to own the Town Hall on the behalf of the whole community, for ever, and continue to provide a home for The Gateway (Option 2), with the additional possibility of extensive refurbishment (Option3)? Or do you want SV’s new trust to own the Town Hall, which will become simply The Gateway (if you want this, follow their advice and vote Option 1 to reject the transfer to the Council).
The full text of my letter is on the View From Seaton site. The print version was edited, omitting one or two points.
Please note that the views expressed in my letter, and on this site, are my own, not those of the Town Council.
After I was coopted on to the Town Council at the end of September, one of my first acts was to spend the morning of 16th October with Carol Manley and Elga Mackie of Seaton’s Voice, which runs The Gateway, discussing plans for the future of the Town Hall. This meeting confirmed my inclination to support Option 3 in the referendum on the Town Hall’s future, i.e. that the Town Council should take the asset transfer from EDDC, take out a loan, and refurbish the building. At that time, Seaton’s Voice supported the same option and I looked forward to working with them to encourage voters to agree.
Barely 10 days later, Seaton’s Voice had ‘withdrawn’ from the proposal. Two weeks after that, they attacked the Council in the press just as the referendum was about to be launched, and Carol and Elga urged supporters on Facebook to vote for option 1, to do nothing and wait for EDDC to give everyone notice, of which they said in October, ‘The result of this will potentially be EDDC sells the building on open market’. I have written a letter published in View From Seaton explaining why I find their new advice perverse, which I will post following this post.
Seaton’s Voice’s October leaflet is below – but please note that notes 2, 3 and 4 are inaccurate, as is the claim that with Option 2 ‘the building could fall into disrepair’.